BoniO wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:53 pm
Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:48 pm
Mick McQuaid wrote: ↑Thu Oct 08, 2020 1:54 pm
Alright dohnut. Here's a go at an outline of a plan because your solutions are plain nuts.
1. Near immediate 2 week strict national lockdown to reduce transmission significantly and to allow changes in structure to be put in place
2. Temperature checks everywhere. It's the moat reliable and earliest sign of symptomatic infections. Everyone should be tested going into every building. If they have a temperature there are arrangements made to be taken home to isolate securely ( pay people furloughed or out of work)
3. Offer proper incentives to nurses and carers for vulnerable people to work away from home in a pattern of 4 week on and 2 off to form a secure bubble with those they care for. Recruit for people willing to do this. Use hotels for this bubble (negotiated rate but you might as well use them as pay furlough). People coming into the bubble tested and clear before working.
4. Scrap all targets on testing and focus on targeted and quick testing where needed. 100,000 tests back in 24 hours where needed are better than 300,000 that take 5 days for a result.
5.Everyone who can work from home works from home until levels are vastly reduced, f*** Pret.
6. Chase Dido into the sea and give all the resources to local public health teams who already have the experience of contact tracing. Rigorous contact tracing and testing of these contacts is whats needed and that's where testing should be focused.
7. Proper follow up on whether people who should isolate are. Visits from health teams and fines for non compliance. If you work from home or in a non essential business you isolate, you don't need a test.
8. Only exempt from face masks with a medical certificate for things like food shopping and transport. For leisure activities, tough tits, can't wear one then don't come in.
9.. Proper risk assessment process for businesses being open based on the clear evidence that the longer people stay together in an enclosed space the higher the risk of infection. Covid safe in enclosed spaces is bollocks. Museums are probably pretty safe.
10. Pubs stay shut until levels are much much lower. People shouldn't be dying for a pint.
11. Schools stay open but resources shared evenly. Private schools to take on additional students to equalise class numbers. I admit this has actually has no benefit but if the current government makes decisions to suit their agenda of privatisation then so can I.
I give up. Please suggest where I have offered solutions. Stop making up stuff. I have not. I am not. I will not. I am however interested in what the (Real) experts have to say. I recognise their differences in opinion. Differences that have been clear from day 1 one way or another. I acknowledge that it’s near impossible to formulate an absolute perfect solution.
I repeat. All I have highlighted was that different experts have different opinions. Simple really.
What you have been doing since Day One+ is to try and portray that "it's a Worldwide problem, nobody has all the answers, the government is doing it's best, experts differ in opinion - so don't just blame the government" etc, etc, et-bloody-cetera. You're masquerading as "Mr Reasonable" when in truth you're just a Tory Government apologist. Many have already sussed that out already. You'll need to up your game.
If you believe I’m an apologist for Johnson then my friend you are nuts. I’ve never made any secret about my dislike for a man who I have described as dangerous. Long before he was PM. Nor have I ever made any secret of my Labour roots and absolute disgust with Corbyn, nor my support for Blair. Take the blinkers off. I vote for the best of the choices available, god help us but that was Johnson. Much of the electorate agreed. 80 majority.
But it Is a worldwide problem. You disagree? Of course it is
Experts have been disagreeing since this mess started. You disagree? Of course they Have.
Nobody has all the answers. You disagree. You think anybody has got this completely right? Prey tell.
The Government is doing its best. Of frigging course it is. We all have opinions about whether it’s good enough or not.
At no time have I politicised this issue. Some, frankly idiots, say it’s all crap because it’s the Tories, out of political ideology. I’ve no time for that. Stupidity beyond comprehension. The Tories have been criticised at times, and rightly so, like the Governments of Sweden, France, Germany, Spain, Australia, Italy and probably more. That’s the nature of the issue.