Coronavirus

[tuffers#1]

Why is anyone looking at Sweden as an example? The Nordic countries as a whole got off pretty lightly, but Sweden had 4 times as many infections and deaths as all the other Nordic countries combined.

Remember also that Sweden has the Highest proportion of Single occupancy households in the world
So in theory fewer people will spread the virus in a Shared Household.

[Still's Carenae]

In April testing showed that between 25-35% of people tested were positive. Now around 1-1.5% and they are wanting lockdown.

The madness of this is that 5 times as many people are dying from flu.

Deaths in the U.S from flu april 2019 -april 2020
24,000 - 62,000

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/pr ... imates.htm

U.S deaths for Covid 199,000

https://www.google.com/search?ei=JTVnX8 ... s-wiz-serp

Are you sure 5 times more are dying from Flu ?

And we still have 3 months.to go for a calendar year

You are quoting US. I am talking about Uk currently.

In the US, if someone dies, the hospital gets $7000, if they have covid $14000, if covid and on a ventilator $36,000. I can only see that you would get your ill patients to get covid, for the extra money. Numbers follow the money, especially in American healthcare.

[tuffers#1]

In April testing showed that between 25-35% of people tested were positive. Now around 1-1.5% and they are wanting lockdown.

The madness of this is that 5 times as many people are dying from flu.

Deaths in the U.S from flu april 2019 -april 2020
24,000 - 62,000

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/pr ... imates.htm

U.S deaths for Covid 199,000

https://www.google.com/search?ei=JTVnX8 ... s-wiz-serp

Are you sure 5 times more are dying from Flu ?

And we still have 3 months.to go for a calendar year

You are quoting US. I am talking about Uk currently.

In the US, if someone dies, the hospital gets $7000, if they have covid $14000, if covid and on a ventilator $36,000. I can only see that you would get your ill patients to get covid, for the extra money. Numbers follow the money, especially in American healthcare.

You get Money ?

Do you mean patients pay for it & sometimes the government of
the U.S aides those who cant afford it .

You sound like you are saying having covid patients means the hospitals get rewarded !


Anyway back to the uk , below weekly stats
Week 37
Virological surveillance
Respiratory DataMart system (England)
In week 37 2020, out of the 370 respiratory specimens reported through the Respiratory
DataMart System, no sample tested positive for influenza.
RSV positivity remained low at 0.0% in week 37. Rhinovirus positivity increased from 10.5% in
week 36 and 22.7% in week 37. Adenovirus positivity remained low at 2.6% in week 37.
Parainfluenza positivity remained low at 0.0% in week 37. Human metapneumovirus (hMPV)
positivity remained low at 0.0% in week 37 2020.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... 020-season

Uk Covid figures
41,777 deaths
+27 this week .

https://www.google.com/search?ei=PphnX7 ... s-wiz-serp

So again ,
You were saying

[BoniO]

In April testing showed that between 25-35% of people tested were positive. Now around 1-1.5% and they are wanting lockdown.

The madness of this is that 5 times as many people are dying from flu.

Deaths in the U.S from flu april 2019 -april 2020
24,000 - 62,000

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/pr ... imates.htm

U.S deaths for Covid 199,000

https://www.google.com/search?ei=JTVnX8 ... s-wiz-serp

Are you sure 5 times more are dying from Flu ?

And we still have 3 months.to go for a calendar year

You are quoting US. I am talking about Uk currently.

In the US, if someone dies, the hospital gets $7000, if they have covid $14000, if covid and on a ventilator $36,000. I can only see that you would get your ill patients to get covid, for the extra money. Numbers follow the money, especially in American healthcare.

So you're suggesting that US hospitals routinely parade patients with covid through wards (or some similar process) so that as many patients as possible catch covid and die? I can see how that would work. Nobody would ever suss that out.

[Long slender neck]

Why is anyone looking at Sweden as an example? The Nordic countries as a whole got off pretty lightly, but Sweden had 4 times as many infections and deaths as all the other Nordic countries combined.

Thought their infections now are lower than other countries. Could be wrong.

[Still's Carenae]

Deaths in the U.S from flu april 2019 -april 2020
24,000 - 62,000

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/pr ... imates.htm

U.S deaths for Covid 199,000

https://www.google.com/search?ei=JTVnX8 ... s-wiz-serp

Are you sure 5 times more are dying from Flu ?

And we still have 3 months.to go for a calendar year

You are quoting US. I am talking about Uk currently.

In the US, if someone dies, the hospital gets $7000, if they have covid $14000, if covid and on a ventilator $36,000. I can only see that you would get your ill patients to get covid, for the extra money. Numbers follow the money, especially in American healthcare.

So you're suggesting that US hospitals routinely parade patients with covid through wards (or some similar process) so that as many patients as possible catch covid and die? I can see how that would work. Nobody would ever suss that out.

What would you do?

[Long slender neck]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54228649

Time to learn to live with it?

[Still's Carenae]

Deaths in the U.S from flu april 2019 -april 2020
24,000 - 62,000

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/pr ... imates.htm

U.S deaths for Covid 199,000

https://www.google.com/search?ei=JTVnX8 ... s-wiz-serp

Are you sure 5 times more are dying from Flu ?

And we still have 3 months.to go for a calendar year

You are quoting US. I am talking about Uk currently.

In the US, if someone dies, the hospital gets $7000, if they have covid $14000, if covid and on a ventilator $36,000. I can only see that you would get your ill patients to get covid, for the extra money. Numbers follow the money, especially in American healthcare.

You get Money ?

Do you mean patients pay for it & sometimes the government of
the U.S aides those who cant afford it .

You sound like you are saying having covid patients means the hospitals get rewarded !


Anyway back to the uk , below weekly stats
Week 37
Virological surveillance
Respiratory DataMart system (England)
In week 37 2020, out of the 370 respiratory specimens reported through the Respiratory
DataMart System, no sample tested positive for influenza.
RSV positivity remained low at 0.0% in week 37. Rhinovirus positivity increased from 10.5% in
week 36 and 22.7% in week 37. Adenovirus positivity remained low at 2.6% in week 37.
Parainfluenza positivity remained low at 0.0% in week 37. Human metapneumovirus (hMPV)
positivity remained low at 0.0% in week 37 2020.

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... 020-season

Uk Covid figures
41,777 deaths
+27 this week .

https://www.google.com/search?ei=PphnX7 ... s-wiz-serp

So again ,
You were saying

ONS figures. Current deaths down last week by 1433 from average. Percentage due to covid - 1% Percentage due to flu and pneumonia 12,8%.

[Dunners]

This from a statistician I sort of trust:

[Still's Carenae]

This from a statistician I sort of trust:

Hi Dunners. These are the places to get the raw data. I hear many thougths on the stats from medical professionals, who have close interest and contact with the ground level.

To pick up from his north south divide, the figures for where I live and work have dropped in the last 2 weeks, this is south east london and north west kent.

[Dunners]

Yeah, I know where to get the raw data. But I also find it interesting to read interpretations of it from people who are far more expert at understanding it than I.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

What are you doing on the Internet with that sort of attitude?

[BoniO]

You are quoting US. I am talking about Uk currently.

In the US, if someone dies, the hospital gets $7000, if they have covid $14000, if covid and on a ventilator $36,000. I can only see that you would get your ill patients to get covid, for the extra money. Numbers follow the money, especially in American healthcare.

So you're suggesting that US hospitals routinely parade patients with covid through wards (or some similar process) so that as many patients as possible catch covid and die? I can see how that would work. Nobody would ever suss that out.

What would you do?

What would I do about what?

On second thoughts, don't bother to explain. You've already suggested that US hospitals are indulging in a conspiracy to murder their patients in order to increase profits. Whilst acknowledging that US business follows the money, this is just too whacky. I'm out.

[tuffers#1]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54234084

50,000 new cases a day if things are left with
No Action taken , says Chief Science Officer.

[Dunners]

(sound on)

[tuffers#1]

(sound on)

Its only Influenza!

So im reading everywhere !

[Mick McQuaid]

So we're now back at level 4 on the nando's scale, which means current social distancing measures remain. Level 3 which we have just moved on from used to say exactly that but now says gradual easing of restrictions, which of course used to be level two. Level four was 30 minures of outdoor exercise a day but now means pubs shut an hour early. Clear?

[PoliticOs]

OH MY GOD IF YOU NEED EVERYTHING EXPLAINED TO YOU ITS NOT GUVS FAULT.

Or something like that.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

If only anyone could have seen this coming

[Lovejoy]

If only anyone could have seen this coming

The Chinese did, they just hushed it up until it was too late.

[AckneyAwks]

Yep...and hardly anything said!!

[Long slender neck]

Anyone fancy a six month lockdown? That's what scientists want according to the guardian.

[Lovejoy]

'I'M ANGRY' Trump slams President Xi over bombshell report blaming China for not stopping coronavirus before it spread around globe.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12730787/ ... ronavirus/

[spen666]

Anyone fancy a six month lockdown? That's what scientists want according to the guardian.

I thought you usually gave people a week or a month's lockdown!

[spen666]

'I'M ANGRY' Trump slams President Xi over bombshell report blaming China for not stopping coronavirus before it spread around globe.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12730787/ ... ronavirus/

That article refers to 188 countries having Covid 19.

Apart from North Korea ( Ha ha ha) what other countries have claimed not to have any cases at all?