I cannot be bothered to get into the debate as it really doesn't bother me what some footballer does for a few seconds before a game. But, IMO, the BLM movement has really mastered the art of nailing a crappy slogan, which has probably ended up causing division when there needn't have been any.
"Take the knee" is a good example. What was originally intended as a symbol of solidarity has been twisted and (deliberately, in some cases) misinterpreted as a demand for subservience and acceptance of guilt. And it was always obvious that such a statement would inevitably be spun in such a way. Well, of course people will become defensive and then hostile towards such a sentiment.
The same can be said for "defund the police". The initial meaning, albeit naive IMO, was not to abolish the police but to fund social services so that there wouldn't be such a need for heavy-handed policing. But it was painfully obvious that it would be taken at face value by both sides.
Anyway, that's my contribution to getting this turgid topic to its 6 page destination.
Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 pm
I cannot be bothered to get into the debate as it really doesn't bother me what some footballer does for a few seconds before a game. But, IMO, the BLM movement has really mastered the art of nailing a crappy slogan, which has probably ended up causing division when there needn't have been any.
"Take the knee" is a good example. What was originally intended as a symbol of solidarity has been twisted and (deliberately, in some cases) misinterpreted as a demand for subservience and acceptance of guilt. And it was always obvious that such a statement would inevitably be spun in such a way. Well, of course people will become defensive and then hostile towards such a sentiment.
The same can be said for "defund the police". The initial meaning, albeit naive IMO, was not to abolish the police but to fund social services so that there wouldn't be such a need for heavy-handed policing. But it was painfully obvious that it would be taken at face value by both sides.
Anyway, that's my contribution to getting this turgid topic to its 6 page destination.
Makes me laugh when people over here start using the word
Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 pm
I cannot be bothered to get into the debate as it really doesn't bother me what some footballer does for a few seconds before a game. But, IMO, the BLM movement has really mastered the art of nailing a crappy slogan, which has probably ended up causing division when there needn't have been any.
"Take the knee" is a good example. What was originally intended as a symbol of solidarity has been twisted and (deliberately, in some cases) misinterpreted as a demand for subservience and acceptance of guilt. And it was always obvious that such a statement would inevitably be spun in such a way. Well, of course people will become defensive and then hostile towards such a sentiment.
The same can be said for "defund the police". The initial meaning, albeit naive IMO, was not to abolish the police but to fund social services so that there wouldn't be such a need for heavy-handed policing. But it was painfully obvious that it would be taken at face value by both sides.
Anyway, that's my contribution to getting this turgid topic to its 6 page destination.
Except Minneapolis has already voted to dismantle their police department. It's one of the reason's why the Democrats will lose this forthcoming November election. They seem to have completely lost the plot.
Dunners wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 1:12 pm
I cannot be bothered to get into the debate as it really doesn't bother me what some footballer does for a few seconds before a game. But, IMO, the BLM movement has really mastered the art of nailing a crappy slogan, which has probably ended up causing division when there needn't have been any.
"Take the knee" is a good example. What was originally intended as a symbol of solidarity has been twisted and (deliberately, in some cases) misinterpreted as a demand for subservience and acceptance of guilt. And it was always obvious that such a statement would inevitably be spun in such a way. Well, of course people will become defensive and then hostile towards such a sentiment.
The same can be said for "defund the police". The initial meaning, albeit naive IMO, was not to abolish the police but to fund social services so that there wouldn't be such a need for heavy-handed policing. But it was painfully obvious that it would be taken at face value by both sides.
Anyway, that's my contribution to getting this turgid topic to its 6 page destination.
Except Minneapolis has already voted to dismantle their police department. It's one of the reason's why the Democrats will lose this forthcoming November election. They seem to have completely lost the plot.
Didnt they say dismantle as it is now &
Replace it with something new ?
Prestige Worldwide wrote: ↑Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:56 pm
Yes Sailor but they're saying 'black lives matter' because American cops are acting as if they don't.
Beep. Beep. Beep. Vehicle Reversing.
