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Re: Keep Ling or Judd...
Judd 58 career total appearances 0 goals
Sam ling 109 career total appearances 5 goals .
As an attacking force , statustics are in favour of ling jnr.
As football now is all about stats
( just watch the https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... 0year-wait liverpool documentary to see how things are done now)
Sam ling 109 career total appearances 5 goals .
As an attacking force , statustics are in favour of ling jnr.
As football now is all about stats
( just watch the https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... 0year-wait liverpool documentary to see how things are done now)
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Re: Keep Ling or Judd...
Relentlesstuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:40 pm Judd 58 career total appearances 0 goals
Sam ling 109 career total appearances 5 goals .
As an attacking force , statustics are in favour of ling jnr.
As football now is all about stats
( just watch the https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... 0year-wait liverpool documentary to see how things are done now)
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Re: Keep Ling or Judd...
Some time back I posted stats that showed defensively we conceded fewer goals when Judd played than when Ling played. Including more clean sheets. The stats related to a season when both played a decent number of games. Stats that favoured Judd in his primary role of defence.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:40 pm Judd 58 career total appearances 0 goals
Sam ling 109 career total appearances 5 goals .
As an attacking force , statustics are in favour of ling jnr.
As football now is all about stats
( just watch the https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... 0year-wait liverpool documentary to see how things are done now)
Of course these stats, like yours, prove very little because so many other factors come in to play, including for example Head Coach instructions on how to play.
Stats are clearly taken more seriously now but they will never be the be all and end all when deciding who is best. Ross and the coaches will use their eyes. Preseason Judd has been better. But it looks like both are relegated.
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Can someone confirm, do both Judd and Lings contracts expire at the end of this season? I believe that’s the case.
Look forward to hearing about Sams contract renewal in the coming months, if so. After all, we paid a fee for him so can’t let him walk away for nowt.
Look forward to hearing about Sams contract renewal in the coming months, if so. After all, we paid a fee for him so can’t let him walk away for nowt.
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Instinct is always to play the best defender for me, if they have some ability going forwards too then that is a bonus, but the best teams tend to be built from the back as the saying goes.Dohnut wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:23 amSome time back I posted stats that showed defensively we conceded fewer goals when Judd played than when Ling played. Including more clean sheets. The stats related to a season when both played a decent number of games. Stats that favoured Judd in his primary role of defence.tuffers#1 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 11:40 pm Judd 58 career total appearances 0 goals
Sam ling 109 career total appearances 5 goals .
As an attacking force , statustics are in favour of ling jnr.
As football now is all about stats
( just watch the https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m ... 0year-wait liverpool documentary to see how things are done now)
Of course these stats, like yours, prove very little because so many other factors come in to play, including for example Head Coach instructions on how to play.
Stats are clearly taken more seriously now but they will never be the be all and end all when deciding who is best. Boss and the coaches will use their eyes. Preseason Judd has been better. But it looks like both are relegated.
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Re: Keep Ling or Judd...
This.PoundhillO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 10:37 am Judd to stay as back up for Jordan ,Ling to go if anyone will take him.
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Re: Keep Ling or Judd...
I'm awaiting confirmation but I believe Ling's contract is up at the end of this season. Presumably if we don't play him he'll walk away on a free and be able to have his pick of clubs in the football league.
The only way to get him to stay and stop rivals enticing him away is to play him regularly and offer him a new improved contract asap.
The only way to get him to stay and stop rivals enticing him away is to play him regularly and offer him a new improved contract asap.
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Re: Keep Ling or Judd...
Said it before (tongue in cheek) but say it again (slightly less tongue in cheek). Ling was a central midfielder pretty much all the way through his youth career and then converted to a RB (you can tell). I'd have him as a back up to someone like Clay or even Cisse who can sit in midfield, break up play a bit and hoof the ball up field.
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Re: Keep Ling or Judd...
This has got to be a WUM , I would be happy for our club t pay any other club a fee to get shot of him ASAP.RedO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:29 pm I'm awaiting confirmation but I believe Ling's contract is up at the end of this season. Presumably if we don't play him he'll walk away on a free and be able to have his pick of clubs in the football league.
The only way to get him to stay and stop rivals enticing him away is to play him regularly and offer him a new improved contract asap.
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Re: Keep Ling or Judd...
Could be worth a try, who knows, might suit him better to play in that position ?Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:36 pm Said it before (tongue in cheek) but say it again (slightly less tongue in cheek). Ling was a central midfielder pretty much all the way through his youth career and then converted to a RB (you can tell). I'd have him as a back up to someone like Clay or even Cisse who can sit in midfield, break up play a bit and hoof the ball up field.
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can't be much worse for this level. And with 3 RBs it means you have more depth in the centre and 2 RBs to cover one position.Sid Bishop wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:40 pmCould be worth a try, who knows, might suit him better to play in that position ?Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:36 pm Said it before (tongue in cheek) but say it again (slightly less tongue in cheek). Ling was a central midfielder pretty much all the way through his youth career and then converted to a RB (you can tell). I'd have him as a back up to someone like Clay or even Cisse who can sit in midfield, break up play a bit and hoof the ball up field.
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I feel the decision on whether Ling or Judd stays will be dependent on which one the club gets an offer for.
I feel that the reason Ling played last 2 friendlies was more to showcase him than team building.
I feel that the reason Ling played last 2 friendlies was more to showcase him than team building.
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A lot of guessing going on here !Glenthorne wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:10 pm I feel the decision on whether Ling or Judd stays will be dependent on which one the club gets an offer for.
I feel that the reason Ling played last 2 friendlies was more to showcase him than team building.
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My worry is we showcase Ling for most of next season.Glenthorne wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:10 pm I feel the decision on whether Ling or Judd stays will be dependent on which one the club gets an offer for.
I feel that the reason Ling played last 2 friendlies was more to showcase him than team building.
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I believe he actually had his first pro as a central midfielder, or converted very close to it. He definitely played U18 games there and was much better in that position. Genuinely quite creative (as opposed to now). I've often thought it strange he's not at least had a few games in that position. Maybe he hates it? I think its worth a go.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:36 pm Said it before (tongue in cheek) but say it again (slightly less tongue in cheek). Ling was a central midfielder pretty much all the way through his youth career and then converted to a RB (you can tell). I'd have him as a back up to someone like Clay or even Cisse who can sit in midfield, break up play a bit and hoof the ball up field.
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Especially given our holes their in the past.PoliticOs wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:54 pmI believe he actually had his first pro as a central midfielder, or converted very close to it. He definitely played U18 games there and was much better in that position. Genuinely quite creative (as opposed to now). I've often thought it strange he's not at least had a few games in that position. Maybe he hates it? I think its worth a go.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 1:36 pm Said it before (tongue in cheek) but say it again (slightly less tongue in cheek). Ling was a central midfielder pretty much all the way through his youth career and then converted to a RB (you can tell). I'd have him as a back up to someone like Clay or even Cisse who can sit in midfield, break up play a bit and hoof the ball up field.
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also this gem on there
"I've just listened to Ross Embleton being interviewed on the podcast and he feels that Dale Gordon is a better footballer than Edou Adams , fair enough . "
"I've just listened to Ross Embleton being interviewed on the podcast and he feels that Dale Gordon is a better footballer than Edou Adams , fair enough . "
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Says it all !!Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:07 pm also this gem on there
"I've just listened to Boss Embleton being interviewed on the podcast and he feels that Dale Gordon is a better footballer than Edou Adams , fair enough . "
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No way did Embelton seriously think that.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:07 pm also this gem on there
"I've just listened to Boss Embleton being interviewed on the podcast and he feels that Dale Gordon is a better footballer than Edou Adams , fair enough . "
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You calling him a liar? tuffers is outside your house mateRedO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:28 pmNo way did Embelton seriously think that.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:07 pm also this gem on there
"I've just listened to Boss Embleton being interviewed on the podcast and he feels that Dale Gordon is a better footballer than Edou Adams , fair enough . "
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Re: Keep Ling or Judd...
I dont see what lie there is in that statement .Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 8:31 pmYou calling him a liar? tuffers is outside your house mateRedO wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 4:28 pmNo way did Embelton seriously think that.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu Sep 03, 2020 3:07 pm also this gem on there
"I've just listened to Boss Embleton being interviewed on the podcast and he feels that Dale Gordon is a better footballer than Edou Adams , fair enough . "
Dale Gordon may have played for that shower of sh*te at I-Pox &
For the Spammers But he played top flight Football something Edou Adams hasnt .
As for Edou is he Ebou 's younger cousin ?