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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:04 pm
RedO wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:50 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:11 pm Sigh.

Are you seriously asking if a man who worked his whole life in football coaching is qualified to become a head coach?
Is coaching 16 year old kids the same as managing a group of professional footballers then?
Is that his career history?
Yes, until ling gave him an assistant coach job at Swindon, then an assistant coach job here, then the main job here.
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BiggsyMalone wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:57 pm
Thor wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:51 pm
Beradogs wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 12:40 pm He is like a kid who got lost on his way to the preliminary stages of Call of Duty at the Cyber games. Completely harmless and I bet he is a nice fella but never in a million years a leader of men especially with no pro background.
Talking nonence but what do you expect from someone who has done nothin in their life except bitch and moan about others.

Mourinho had no pro background he has done OK.
Wenger never played at a high level he did ok.

I could go on but you wouldn’t understand.
I agree it's not a pre-requisite but both of those played professional football.
Carlos Alberto Parreira didnt 😁
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tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:02 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:04 pm
RedO wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:50 pm

Is coaching 16 year old kids the same as managing a group of professional footballers then?
Is that his career history?
Danny webb was in charge of the 16 year olds & plenty wanted him running the club .

Ah but he played football theyll say

Carlos Alberto Parreira didnt though & he won the world cup
I didn’t.
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Re: Ross

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RedO wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 5:02 pm
tuffers#1 wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:02 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 3:04 pm

Is that his career history?
Danny webb was in charge of the 16 year olds & plenty wanted him running the club .

Ah but he played football theyll say

Carlos Alberto Parreira didnt though & he won the world cup
I didn’t.
No , you mentioned the job that danny webb loved to do
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A job that doesn't give you the relevant experience needed to manage a professional football club.

Webb was also running the academy, not just one of a load of coaches.
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Ross also ran our Academy. In his early to mid twenties.
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PoliticOs wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:23 pm Ross also ran our Academy. In his early to mid twenties.
No he never.
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He was Youth Development Manager. Didn't that job encapsulate running the thing day to day?
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No that fell to Andy Edwards.
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I think you're mistaken. Andy Edwards was a couple of year later than Ross. They didn't work together.

Ross ran the COE until 2009ish (when he was 26) I believe.
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Whoever took over from Andy ran it day to day. Ross only coached at the centre of excellence.
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Yes but that is after, isn't it? Ross was before, he wasn't here after Edwards.

Ross was there as YDM until he left around 2009. Edwards came in as Ross left and became AM in around 2011. I think Miguel De Souza might have run it after.
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Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:59 am
Sid Bishop wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:58 am
NuneatonO's wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:54 am It was indeed just utter drivel, wasn't it.

He was clearly just whinging it; spouting the first tosh that came into his head without even thinking.

No passion; it was just a garbled message of nothingness.

There must be more than one player in our squad that was just sitting there thinking "you've never even played the game professionally mate; why should I even bother listening to you?
There must be more than one player in our squad that was just sitting there thinking
"you've never even played the game professionally mate; why should I even bother listening to you ?
With ''Ross as Boss'' we are just going to have to write this season off.
I could not play for this guy.
More your thing Sid?

You either got it or you aint and Ross aint got it. Give it a season or so and we shall see who got the call right wont we.
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Sid Bishop wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:15 pm
Prestige Worldwide wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:59 am
Sid Bishop wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:58 am

There must be more than one player in our squad that was just sitting there thinking
"you've never even played the game professionally mate; why should I even bother listening to you ?
With ''Ross as Boss'' we are just going to have to write this season off.
I could not play for this guy.
More your thing Sid?

You either got it or you aint and Ross aint got it. Give it a season or so and we shall see who got the call right wont we.
So you are holding Nigel & Kent responsible ?
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There's some bloke who just won the Champions League, German league and Cup with virtually no experience as manager
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Look at the end of the day when justin died it was a sad day the owners ahould have gone out and found his replacment but they didnt save money ok ross is still here and we have to live with it we have to move on support the team and the club
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Adz wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:16 am There's some bloke who just won the Champions League, German league and Cup with virtually no experience as manager
That's not true.
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BiggsyMalone wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:29 am
Adz wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:16 am There's some bloke who just won the Champions League, German league and Cup with virtually no experience as manager
That's not true.
5 years of non league management 20 years ago barely counts
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Adz wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:53 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:29 am
Adz wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:16 am There's some bloke who just won the Champions League, German league and Cup with virtually no experience as manager
That's not true.
5 years of non league management 20 years ago barely counts
Doesn’t it? You said virtually no experience. 5 years is substantial.

If you want to compare a man with 5 years managerial experience who then went on to be assistant manager of a world cup winning team with Ross Embleton, crack on.
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Re: Ross

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BiggsyMalone wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:27 pm
Adz wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 11:53 am
BiggsyMalone wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:29 am
That's not true.
5 years of non league management 20 years ago barely counts
Doesn’t it? You said virtually no experience. 5 years is substantial.

If you want to compare a man with 5 years managerial experience who then went on to be assistant manager of a world cup winning team with Ross Embleton, crack on.
So ridiculous to even think of comparing the playing and coaching careers of Ross Embleton and Hans-Dieter Flick. For just a start, Hans-Dieter Flick was a very good professional footballer who played 104 games for Bayern Munich plus 44 games for FC Cologne before retiring from playing due to injuries. Long before becoming Manager of Bayern Munich, he worked under world class coaches in Giovanni Trapattoni, Lothar Matthäus and also was also assistant coach for Germany from 2006 to 2014.
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Yeah but Ross worked with Spurs U11s for 4 years.
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Could Ross run a successful paper merchants? Probably not. Could I do what he does...no...well actually I could, and he knows that, even now.
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Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:16 pm Yeah but Ross worked with Spurs U11s for 4 years.
OMG, well enough said !
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Apple Wumble wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:16 pm Could Ross run a successful paper merchants? Probably not. Could I do what he does...no...well actually I could, and he knows that, even now.
If so, can we now call you ''The Gaffer'' !!
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I prefer "Boss"
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