England V West Indies - test decider

[Top of the JES]

Going to chuck it down tomorrow if the covers do their work and we get a full day Tuesday we can win this.

[i8ubutler]

Windies 10 - 2 chasing 399 at the close.

[Thor]

Serious question.

I’m watching the highlights now on bbc2 and the wicket keeper takes one full in the face after he failed to hold a rising ball. Eventually a sub wicket keeper comes on and he is white, is he the first white person to play for the West Indies?

[Top of the JES]

Serious question.

I’m watching the highlights now on bbc2 and the wicket keeper takes one full in the face after he failed to hold a rising ball. Eventually a sub wicket keeper comes on and he is white, is he the first white person to play for the West Indies?

Brendan Nash was the last I could remember and then I found this article.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... an-cricket

[tuffers#1]

Serious question.

I’m watching the highlights now on bbc2 and the wicket keeper takes one full in the face after he failed to hold a rising ball. Eventually a sub wicket keeper comes on and he is white, is he the first white person to play for the West Indies?

Dont be stupid all your life Thory

[Adz]

Serious question.

I’m watching the highlights now on bbc2 and the wicket keeper takes one full in the face after he failed to hold a rising ball. Eventually a sub wicket keeper comes on and he is white, is he the first white person to play for the West Indies?

Dont be stupid all your life Thory

Don't be a silly sausage tuffers, he's sought out information on a subject he didn't know about, that's far from being stupid

[tuffers#1]

Serious question.

I’m watching the highlights now on bbc2 and the wicket keeper takes one full in the face after he failed to hold a rising ball. Eventually a sub wicket keeper comes on and he is white, is he the first white person to play for the West Indies?

Dont be stupid all your life Thory

Don't be a silly sausage tuffers, he's sought out information on a subject he didn't know about, that's far from being stupid

What ?
The age he is ,
What is Cricket ?
An upper Class Sport
Who plays Cricket ?
TheWealthy Public Schools
Who Else?
The commonwealth with there White Settlements
South Africa, Australia ( Convicts, you know why they call them that dontcha)
India , Pakistan ( 1947 onwards) West Indies .
Places Conquered ( or whatever else you want to see it as)

West Indies was a White Masters Domain where Black Slaves etc etc
Come on Seriously anyone under the age of 30 i might allow a question like that .

Anyone over 30 who doesnt know what Cricket is
Is STUPID .

Come on Adz Im Irish & Care little about the game & even i know what it was & where it comes from.
Growing up with Black Kids in school & asking questions about cricket from them & there parents
got me an excellent education.

The West Indies didnt even have a Black Captain until the 50s .
The 3 W's an all that .

Why not look up the Info on google or You tube about the West Indies.
Instead of his far fetched conspiracy theories .

Old thory knows the game he is Playing & he is baiting confrontation as always

[Confucius]

Dont be stupid all your life Thory

Don't be a silly sausage tuffers, he's sought out information on a subject he didn't know about, that's far from being stupid

What ?
The age he is ,
What is Cricket ?
An upper Class Sport
Who plays Cricket ?
TheWealthy Public Schools
Who Else?
The commonwealth with there White Settlements
South Africa, Australia ( Convicts, you know why they call them that dontcha)
India , Pakistan ( 1947 onwards) West Indies .
Places Conquered ( or whatever else you want to see it as)

West Indies was a White Masters Domain where Black Slaves etc etc
Come on Seriously anyone under the age of 30 i might allow a question like that .

Anyone over 30 who doesnt know what Cricket is
Is STUPID .

Come on Adz Im Irish & Care little about the game & even i know what it was & where it comes from.
Growing up with Black Kids in school & asking questions about cricket from them & there parents
got me an excellent education.

The West Indies didnt even have a Black Captain until the 50s .
The 3 W's an all that .

Why not look up the Info on google or You tube about the West Indies.
Instead of his far fetched conspiracy theories .

Old thory knows the game he is Playing & he is baiting confrontation as always

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[tuffers#1]

Don't be a silly sausage tuffers, he's sought out information on a subject he didn't know about, that's far from being stupid

What ?
The age he is ,
What is Cricket ?
An upper Class Sport
Who plays Cricket ?
TheWealthy Public Schools
Who Else?
The commonwealth with there White Settlements
South Africa, Australia ( Convicts, you know why they call them that dontcha)
India , Pakistan ( 1947 onwards) West Indies .
Places Conquered ( or whatever else you want to see it as)

West Indies was a White Masters Domain where Black Slaves etc etc
Come on Seriously anyone under the age of 30 i might allow a question like that .

Anyone over 30 who doesnt know what Cricket is
Is STUPID .

Come on Adz Im Irish & Care little about the game & even i know what it was & where it comes from.
Growing up with Black Kids in school & asking questions about cricket from them & there parents
got me an excellent education.

The West Indies didnt even have a Black Captain until the 50s .
The 3 W's an all that .

Why not look up the Info on google or You tube about the West Indies.
Instead of his far fetched conspiracy theories .

Old thory knows the game he is Playing & he is baiting confrontation as always

F102101A-6DF4-4800-9F3C-31724FDB4FCF.jpeg

[Thor]

Serious question.

I’m watching the highlights now on bbc2 and the wicket keeper takes one full in the face after he failed to hold a rising ball. Eventually a sub wicket keeper comes on and he is white, is he the first white person to play for the West Indies?

Brendan Nash was the last I could remember and then I found this article.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... an-cricket

Thank you.

Tuffers, no I didn’t know the answer, no I’m not fishing or baiting, it was a genuine question, yet still you find a reason to want to turn it into something else. That’s really disappointing.

[tuffers#1]

Serious question.

I’m watching the highlights now on bbc2 and the wicket keeper takes one full in the face after he failed to hold a rising ball. Eventually a sub wicket keeper comes on and he is white, is he the first white person to play for the West Indies?

Brendan Nash was the last I could remember and then I found this article.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/ ... an-cricket

Thank you.

Tuffers, no I didn’t know the answer, no I’m not fishing or baiting, it was a genuine question, yet still you find a reason to want to turn it into something else. That’s really disappointing.

I thought it was Common Knowledge in England that Cricket is an upper class game
& was played amongst its colonial cousins .

Maybe Education & History in particular needs to be looked at again

[Thor]

But that doesn't mean a white person would have played for the W.I now does it? As we exported the game to many countries the indigenous population would have taken the game up and played it.

You can be proper argumentative over nothing.

[tuffers#1]

But that doesn't mean a white person would have played for the W.I now does it? As we exported the game to many countries the indigenous population would have taken the game up and played it.

You can be proper argumentative over nothing.

Exported the Game


You didnt export the game
You exported people to new places ( soldiers/military)
To make bases that allowed people from here to get rich from stealing from people from there .

India & Tea
West inidies sugar & other food stuffs
South Africa Gold & Diamonds .

Those White public school people then played cricket & as the video i posted showed , they got the slaves in the west indies specifically to throw the balls back when they left the pitch .

[tuffers#1]

Back to the game in hand .
England should win comfortably if rain doesnt effect play

[kokomO]

Stuart Broad takes 500th wicket. West Indies in big trouble at 45-3.

One for future quizzes , kraigg braithwaite was also Jimmy Anderson's 500th wicket at lord's 3 years ago.

[kokomO]

West Indies 84-5 at lunch on the final day at Old Trafford.

[Top of the JES]

All over. England beat the rain and the West Indies to win by 269 Runs.

Stuart Broad who wasn't deemed good enough to play the first test takes 10 wickets, scores 60 and reaches 500 test wickets in the match.

I think he's made a point.

[kokomO]

West Indies 129 all out. England win series 2-1 and get to keep the Wisden trophy forever!!

[Dohnut]

Great win. Well done England.

[EliotNes]

Serious question.

I’m watching the highlights now on bbc2 and the wicket keeper takes one full in the face after he failed to hold a rising ball. Eventually a sub wicket keeper comes on and he is white, is he the first white person to play for the West Indies?

Geoffrey (Geoff) Greenidge (opening bat) was the last white cricketer to play for the Windies and this was in the early/mid 70's. If I remember correctly he opened with (now Sir) Gordon Greenidge in a few tests. He was Barbadian and also played for Sussex. I remember seeing him playing for Sussex against Essex at Ilford sometime in the 70's.
Brendan Nash is mixed race, he has one Jamaican parent (I forget which one) so is not considered by cricket aficionados to be the last white cricketer to play for the Windies.

[kokomO]

Tony Cozier from Barbados, radio commentator.

[kokomO]

Tony Cozier from Barbados, radio commentator.

Sorry, I thought he'd played the game before doing the commentating but was always a journalist.

[RientO]

Tony Cozier from Barbados, radio commentator.

Sorry, I thought he'd played the game before doing the commentating but was always a journalist.

When I lived in Dalston many years ago, they renamed the library to the CLR James library. When I saw it, I thought that was one hell of an arrogant council member

Would have helped if they had called it C.L.R James as they have done with the rebuilt library.