Premier League Gay Footballer

[kokomO]

Who is it?

Who cares?

[Beradogs]

I can’t understand why people forever conflate two different things. Commenting on the ridiculousness of prison sentences handed out for hurting people’s feelings is not the same as being homophobic. One is free speech and social commentary which we are still allowed and the other makes you a bigot.

[Oiram]

No stigma being gay in football. There are enough gay supporters , many famous, I mean look at Elton John?

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I can’t understand why people forever conflate two different things. Commenting on the ridiculousness of prison sentences handed out for hurting people’s feelings is not the same as being homophobic. One is free speech and social commentary which we are still allowed and the other makes you a bigot.

I think you’re getting stick for the comments about Ronaldo being really gay and that sort of thing rather than your ‘social commentary’.

Hope you’re ok tho, hun.

[Top of the JES]

You would like to think that times have moved on and it wouldn't make any difference what colour or sexuality a player is, but they haven't. It wasn't that long ago that Robbie Fowler openly mocked Graeme Le Soux during a game at a time when Le Souxs sexuality was being talked about. Le Soux used to get terrible stick from the crowd at that time.

I have friends who work at a London premier league club and It's openly accepted that there are several gay players in the premier league, but no one is going to name them and rightly so because it's nobody's business but their own.

[Ornchurch]

There would definitely be comments aimed at a player coming out as gay but IMO this would only be to take the piss and put the player off his game. It's the same way as chants at Brighton and Chelsea fans are designed to wind them up and it works.

There are so many people identifying as LGBTQ now that the majority of people have a family member, a work colleague or just know someone who isn't straight and realise that it makes absolutely no difference in them as an individual.

There are also a number of mainstream comics whose entire act and making a living revolves around being gay and sexual innuendos.

[faldO]

A very tough and heart-breaking situation, especially where he says he feels he cannot enter a relationship due to trust, (presumably fear of an ex running to the media or similar).

It's going to be one brave person who takes the leap, but I think that's the only way to find out if "football" is ready. Sadly, from some comments above, it seems probably not.

I wish him all the very best.

[Disoriented]

There would definitely be comments aimed at a player coming out as gay but IMO this would only be to take the p*ss and put the player off his game. It's the same way as chants at Brighton and Chelsea fans are designed to wind them up and it works.

There are so many people identifying as LGBTQ now that the majority of people have a family member, a work colleague or just know someone who isn't straight and realise that it makes absolutely no difference in them as an individual.

There are also a number of mainstream comics whose entire act and making a living revolves around being gay and sexual innuendos.

Agree with the final point but the days of Bernard Manning et al are long gone, thankfully.

Yes it is important to know who they are as this issue will simmer until properly confronted. The BLM movement has shown the power of saying enough is enough and to be black and proud. We need gay footballers to come out so the millions of fair-minded footballing fans can support them whole-heartedly and call out the morons who mock them.

[Long slender neck]

You would like to think that times have moved on and it wouldn't make any difference what colour or sexuality a player is, but they haven't. It wasn't that long ago that Robbie Fowler openly mocked Graeme Le Soux during a game at a time when Le Souxs sexuality was being talked about. Le Soux used to get terrible stick from the crowd at that time.

I have friends who work at a London premier league club and It's openly accepted that there are several gay players in the premier league, but no one is going to name them and rightly so because it's nobody's business but their own.

Wasn't that about 20 years ago?

[Ornchurch]

There would definitely be comments aimed at a player coming out as gay but IMO this would only be to take the p*ss and put the player off his game. It's the same way as chants at Brighton and Chelsea fans are designed to wind them up and it works.

There are so many people identifying as LGBTQ now that the majority of people have a family member, a work colleague or just know someone who isn't straight and realise that it makes absolutely no difference in them as an individual.

There are also a number of mainstream comics whose entire act and making a living revolves around being gay and sexual innuendos.

Agree with the final point but the days of Bernard Manning et al are long gone, thankfully.

Yes it is important to know who they are as this issue will simmer until properly confronted. The BLM movement has shown the power of saying enough is enough and to be black and proud. We need gay footballers to come out so the millions of fair-minded footballing fans can support them whole-heartedly and call out the morons who mock them.

I'm not talking about the likes of Bernard Manning but the likes of Juian Clary, David Walliams and Jack Whitehall.

[Currywurst and Chips]

No doubt it'd be used as an extra stick to attack him.

He'd probably make a killing from endorsements as well though, so makes sense financially if he's some second rate prem player at a team like Watford

[Top of the JES]

You would like to think that times have moved on and it wouldn't make any difference what colour or sexuality a player is, but they haven't. It wasn't that long ago that Robbie Fowler openly mocked Graeme Le Soux during a game at a time when Le Souxs sexuality was being talked about. Le Soux used to get terrible stick from the crowd at that time.

I have friends who work at a London premier league club and It's openly accepted that there are several gay players in the premier league, but no one is going to name them and rightly so because it's nobody's business but their own.

Wasn't that about 20 years ago?

Blimey it was actually, having said that we are not a long way further on with getting Tod of racism so sadly nothing to suggest it would be any different with homophobia.

[Adz]

I can’t understand why people forever conflate two different things. Commenting on the ridiculousness of prison sentences handed out for hurting people’s feelings is not the same as being homophobic. One is free speech and social commentary which we are still allowed and the other makes you a bigot.

Ffs, you conflated being gay and being effeminate about 5 posts back

[Thor]

Kent is right it would be hard. My mate Lee is a Millwall fan and he came out as gay when he was 18, till today his dad doesn't accept it, the relationship has never been the same since and thats his dad. As a fan he doesn't let anyone know he is gay over there as he's worried about what would happen. I'm not even joking either. I was there this season and millwall fans were absolutely slaughtering their own black players with the worse foul language aimed at them you could imagine, and its players from the team they supposedly support.

So when you put that context in, fans will not in the majority slaughter but a vocal minority will.

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

There would definitely be comments aimed at a player coming out as gay but IMO this would only be to take the p*ss and put the player off his game. It's the same way as chants at Brighton and Chelsea fans are designed to wind them up and it works.

There are so many people identifying as LGBTQ now that the majority of people have a family member, a work colleague or just know someone who isn't straight and realise that it makes absolutely no difference in them as an individual.

There are also a number of mainstream comics whose entire act and making a living revolves around being gay and sexual innuendos.

Agree with the final point but the days of Bernard Manning et al are long gone, thankfully.

Yes it is important to know who they are as this issue will simmer until properly confronted. The BLM movement has shown the power of saying enough is enough and to be black and proud. We need gay footballers to come out so the millions of fair-minded footballing fans can support them whole-heartedly and call out the morons who mock them.

I'm not talking about the likes of Bernard Manning but the likes of Juian Clary, David Walliams and Jack Whitehall.

Are David Williams and Jack Whitehall gays?

[Ornchurch]

Agree with the final point but the days of Bernard Manning et al are long gone, thankfully.

Yes it is important to know who they are as this issue will simmer until properly confronted. The BLM movement has shown the power of saying enough is enough and to be black and proud. We need gay footballers to come out so the millions of fair-minded footballing fans can support them whole-heartedly and call out the morons who mock them.

I'm not talking about the likes of Bernard Manning but the likes of Juian Clary, David Walliams and Jack Whitehall.

Are David Williams and Jack Whitehall gays?

I don't think either are but both, more so Walliams, joke about being so and act like they are.

[Long slender neck]

I reckon it's Raheem Sterling

[tuffers#1]

I reckon it's Raheem Sterling

Paige Milian

[Rich Tea Wellin]

I don’t believe this account is real, unless I’m missing something, the tabloids do everything they can usually to out people or Get a scoop unless a court stops them.

But anyway. I’d really like to think that fans, like if there’s racial abuse, would turn on whoever is shouting homophobic abuse out. But who knows, I think too much of people sometimes. This threads a good example that we aren’t there yet.

I agree with a previous post about it not just being in the crowd. A recent Louis Theroux podcast with Troy Deeney touched on the subject and he couldn’t understand why someone doesn’t come out...and in the same sentence says that for the first week ‘a few of the boys would wonder whether he was looking at us in the shower, but afterwards it would be fine and back to normal’ and therein lies some of the problem

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I'm not talking about the likes of Bernard Manning but the likes of Juian Clary, David Walliams and Jack Whitehall.

Are David Williams and Jack Whitehall gays?

I don't think either are but both, more so Walliams, joke about being so and act like they are.

Oh.

What the hell is your point?

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

But anyway. I’d really like to think that fans, like if there’s racial abuse, would turn on whoever is shouting homophobic abuse out. But who knows, I think too much of people sometimes. This threads a good example that we aren’t there yet.

Nowhere near mate.

I’ve heard shouts of ‘f*cking poof’ at opposing players from our support as recently as last season.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

But anyway. I’d really like to think that fans, like if there’s racial abuse, would turn on whoever is shouting homophobic abuse out. But who knows, I think too much of people sometimes. This threads a good example that we aren’t there yet.

Nowhere near mate.

I’ve heard shouts of ‘f*cking poof’ at opposing players from our support as recently as last season.

Yep. Any player with long hair tends to get that as well

[Ronnie Hotdogs]

I think it might have been Bromley away, one of their players stayed down for more than 2 seconds after getting fouled.

[Disoriented]

But anyway. I’d really like to think that fans, like if there’s racial abuse, would turn on whoever is shouting homophobic abuse out. But who knows, I think too much of people sometimes. This threads a good example that we aren’t there yet.

Nowhere near mate.

I’ve heard shouts of ‘f*cking poof’ at opposing players from our support as recently as last season.

Yes, homophobic language seems par for the course at home.

[Cheshunto]

But anyway. I’d really like to think that fans, like if there’s racial abuse, would turn on whoever is shouting homophobic abuse out. But who knows, I think too much of people sometimes. This threads a good example that we aren’t there yet.

Nowhere near mate.

I’ve heard shouts of ‘f*cking poof’ at opposing players from our support as recently as last season.

Yes, homophobic language seems par for the course at home.

Sadly I think homophobic language and abuse would happen at home and away, however I think fans at our ground wouldn’t accept racist comments or chants.
If this guy exists or If any other gay player ‘comes out’ as Gay I think they would be very brave.
I’ve heard some shocking comments at Orient, although never anything racist, but I feel that any of the opposing players who were known to be gay Would get abuse from some fans. It’s a sad fact that even in 2020 people think that way but unfortunately there will always be racists and anti-gay fans in Football Grounds.
They’re an element in society and aren’t going anywhere unfortunately.