Fall of the Cabal

[StillSpike]

Anyone managed to watch this? > 2 hours - 10 part "documentary" on youtube ?

One of my conspiraloon pals has been on and on at me to watch it - "it'll really open your eyes - you'll be amazed" - so I just tried.

I know we should try having a open mind and all that, but I lasted about 7 and a half minutes before I had to switch it off - soon as she started on about "chemtrails" that was it, I'm afraid. IF there were any actual nuggets of true, non-batshit, information to come in the next 9.8 episodes, I'm going to have to miss out on them.

Note to any wannabe CT spreaders - If I wanted my conspiracy theory to be believed and widely taken up, I think I'd try to make my youtube video a bit less like ALL the other conspiraloon YT videos - a few less nicked photos with red circles on, a bit less bright font comments saying "Hmmmm?" bouncing across the screen - that would be my advice.

Anyone been able to get further in than me ?

[The Mindsweep]

Is David Tennant or Martin Clunes narrating?

[EH16]

Not something I'd even bother with. Never been a fan of conspiracy theories. Mainly because having spent a lot of my working life with big multi national companies none of them were even close to being efficient enough to organise such things. Or keep them quiet.

[Stowaway]

Anyone managed to watch this? > 2 hours - 10 part "documentary" on youtube ?

One of my conspiraloon pals has been on and on at me to watch it - "it'll really open your eyes - you'll be amazed" - so I just tried.

I know we should try having a open mind and all that, but I lasted about 7 and a half minutes before I had to switch it off - soon as she started on about "chemtrails" that was it, I'm afraid. IF there were any actual nuggets of true, non-batshit, information to come in the next 9.8 episodes, I'm going to have to miss out on them.

Note to any wannabe CT spreaders - If I wanted my conspiracy theory to be believed and widely taken up, I think I'd try to make my youtube video a bit less like ALL the other conspiraloon YT videos - a few less nicked photos with red circles on, a bit less bright font comments saying "Hmmmm?" bouncing across the screen - that would be my advice.

Anyone been able to get further in than me ?

I wouldn’t waste my time on any of it, as it’s all demonstrably bollocks. Chemtrails, ffs. Commercial aviation engineering is my field, and I’d love to able to take any of these arseholes into a hanger, ask them to choose any large commercial jet and then ask them exactly where the chemtrail tanks are.

Let’s look at the basics. Presumably the chemicals are water based, so we’ll assume that 1,000 litres of fluid takes up 1 cubic meter of volume and would weigh one metric tonne. Water bombing aircraft carry around 15,000 litres, that’s 15 tonnes. That only covers a small area - if you’re going to alter the minds of large populations then you’ll need a lot more than that.
I can tell you that every single square centimetre of an aircraft is accounted for, so where are these massive tanks? And who is paying the airlines to drop a minimum of 15 tons of cargo or passengers to accommodate it?

Large aircraft need to use their fuel in a systematic order, in that you can’t drain one tank to empty as the centre of gravity of the aircraft will go to poo poo. The remaining fuel is constantly being pumped around the wing/belly tanks to keep the aircraft in trim as the fuel is used up in flight. If you suddenly dump 15 tons from a self-contained tank in flight then you’re in big trouble. There’s a horrible video of a US Air Force 747 freighter falling out of the sky when the load suddenly shifted to the rear while it was taking off in Afghanistan. That’s what happens.

Plus some basic chemistry/physics. At cruising altitude, on the edge of the stratosphere, the temperature is a constant -57c. The air is also very thin, but there is moisture. Jet fuel contains a tiny amount of water too, and the exhaust gases from the turbine are very, very hot. Guess what happens? The moisture in the air gets heated by the gases and it condenses. You get steam. And then, because it’s f*cking cold up there, it freezes. And you big fluffy streams of cloud-like trails behind the engines. Not from the wing tips, or the tail, or from any secretive nozzles, but behind each engine, at a distance of around 30-40 meters at the usual cruising speed of 550-600kts. It’s condensed steam, ffs. This is properly basic elementary science. And you’ll note that the number of vapour trails will always match the number of engines the aircraft has, two, three or four. Funny that, eh?!

Finally, crop sprayers. Crop spraying pilots are very well paid, and that’s because they’re really, really good, because they spray their insecticide or whatever from a height of about 30 feet or less. They do this because it’s the optimum height for dispersal. That’s 30 feet, not 36,000 feet. Trying dispersal at 36,000 is like having a massive poo poo in your loo, then taking the air freshener to the end of your 200 foot garden and then spraying it. It’s f*cking pointless. Winds at 36,000 feet can be up to 200mph, where do you think your freshly frozen solid (-57c, remember!!!) chemicals are going to end up? Mongolia, if you’re lucky.

To believe in chemtrails you have to suspend so many basic engineering and scientific principles that it’s really not worth my time arguing with you, because you’re a f*cking idiot.

This also applies to flat earth and 5G, and having worked in BT international transmission systems for 20 years before aircraft, I can debunk 5G equally easily.

I need a beer now.

[Rich Tea Wellin]

You would say that...

[StillSpike]

I'm reading a Christopher Brookmyre novel at the moment, which contains rather a good quote (something like):

By definition, the minimum number of people you need for a Conspiracy is two. That is also the ideal maximum number.

[The Mindsweep]

I'm reading a Christopher Brookmyre novel at the moment, which contains rather a good quote (something like):

By definition, the minimum number of people you need for a Conspiracy is two. That is also the ideal maximum number.

Christopher Brookmyre, now that's someone you should read. Brilliant writer.

[tuffers#1]

One of my conspiraloon pals has been on and on at me to watch it - "it'll really open your eyes - you'll be amazed" - so I just tried.

Your friends with Thr ?

[gshaw]

On the flip side, watch the film Dark Waters (Mark Ruffalo). Very good film and shows exactly how corporate cover-ups work with Govt assistance. Certainly makes you wonder what's possible elsewhere as it's a true story.

[DuvB]

Shame. I thought this was going to about The Blacklist.

[The Mindsweep]

Just watched all 10 episodes, fascinating, makes you think. I'm joking, didn't really, it's not and it doesn't. Handy though for those folks who are scrambling to find another go to place for their crackpot ideas, they will lap it up.

[HeyO]

On the flip side, watch the film Dark Waters (Mark Ruffalo). Very good film and shows exactly how corporate cover-ups work with Govt assistance. Certainly makes you wonder what's possible elsewhere as it's a true story.

Totally agree here.