Freedom pass changes

[Mistadobalina]

Same thing applies to young persons discounts on Oyster cards. TFL has had its central government funding cut to shreds over the last few years and COVID has tipped it over the edge, so not surprised.

[KC & sunshine band]

just been renamed to the ' not so freedom pass '

[one o in huntingdon]

No one is saying the old can't travel, they can, but it just won't be free.

But if there are retrictions on the times when they can travel then that is treating them as second class citizens and shows no respect to our senior citizens.

The Freedom Pass is obviously now a misnomer and should be called "The Old Peoples Second Class Citizen Restricted Freedom Pass"

Travel is important as the prophet says:

"The World is a book and those who do not travel read only a page"

So are all those who buy off peak return tickets also second class citizens?
They also don't allow peak time travel and again you can go at rush hour, but it costs.

Whole free bus pass thing is crazy, far too costly for local authorities to fund.
Where I live people have a free pass, but no bus service to use it on
Reason being the council had to withdraw the subsidies to pay for the bus pass county wide

I never understand why olds want to travel in rush hour unless they are going to work
If they are why do they need a free pass any more than other working people?

[Max B Gold]

No one is saying the old can't travel, they can, but it just won't be free.

But if there are retrictions on the times when they can travel then that is treating them as second class citizens and shows no respect to our senior citizens.

The Freedom Pass is obviously now a misnomer and should be called "The Old Peoples Second Class Citizen Restricted Freedom Pass"

Travel is important as the prophet says:

"The World is a book and those who do not travel read only a page"

So are all those who buy off peak return tickets also second class citizens?
They also don't allow peak time travel and again you can go at rush hour, but it costs.

Whole free bus pass thing is crazy, far too costly for local authorities to fund.
Where I live people have a free pass, but no bus service to use it on
Reason being the council had to withdraw the subsidies to pay for the bus pass county wide

I never understand why olds want to travel in rush hour unless they are going to work
If they are why do they need a free pass any more than other working people?

They could be going to a doctor's, hospital appointment to be tested for an STI.

[HeyO]

No one is saying the old can't travel, they can, but it just won't be free.

But if there are retrictions on the times when they can travel then that is treating them as second class citizens and shows no respect to our senior citizens.

The Freedom Pass is obviously now a misnomer and should be called "The Old Peoples Second Class Citizen Restricted Freedom Pass"

Travel is important as the prophet says:

"The World is a book and those who do not travel read only a page"

So are all those who buy off peak return tickets also second class citizens?
They also don't allow peak time travel and again you can go at rush hour, but it costs.

Whole free bus pass thing is crazy, far too costly for local authorities to fund.
Where I live people have a free pass, but no bus service to use it on
Reason being the council had to withdraw the subsidies to pay for the bus pass county wide

I never understand why olds want to travel in rush hour unless they are going to work
If they are why do they need a free pass any more than other working people?

Deliberately ageist comment.

[one o in huntingdon]

But if there are retrictions on the times when they can travel then that is treating them as second class citizens and shows no respect to our senior citizens.

The Freedom Pass is obviously now a misnomer and should be called "The Old Peoples Second Class Citizen Restricted Freedom Pass"

Travel is important as the prophet says:

"The World is a book and those who do not travel read only a page"

So are all those who buy off peak return tickets also second class citizens?
They also don't allow peak time travel and again you can go at rush hour, but it costs.

Whole free bus pass thing is crazy, far too costly for local authorities to fund.
Where I live people have a free pass, but no bus service to use it on
Reason being the council had to withdraw the subsidies to pay for the bus pass county wide

I never understand why olds want to travel in rush hour unless they are going to work
If they are why do they need a free pass any more than other working people?

Deliberately ageist comment.

Silly old git, now that definitely is deliberate

[cockhat]

Seeing as you dislike old people, why am i not surprised by this?

It's nothing to do with a dislike of old people and everything due to travel demand during peak times. Having people travelling for free during these times and potentially resulting in some paying customers not being able to board trains or even get a seat isn't right if you think about it.

That's not the fault of the oldies. It's down to a lack of adequate infrastructure or looked at another way an overheated London economy which enjoys an inappropriate share of the country's resources which should be more equally shared with the rest of the country to alleviate the pressure on the capital.

Agree with that, however, I suppose you’re talking about England only? Nicola can look after Scotland!

[LittleMate]

But if there are retrictions on the times when they can travel then that is treating them as second class citizens and shows no respect to our senior citizens.

The Freedom Pass is obviously now a misnomer and should be called "The Old Peoples Second Class Citizen Restricted Freedom Pass"

Travel is important as the prophet says:

"The World is a book and those who do not travel read only a page"

So are all those who buy off peak return tickets also second class citizens?
They also don't allow peak time travel and again you can go at rush hour, but it costs.

Whole free bus pass thing is crazy, far too costly for local authorities to fund.
Where I live people have a free pass, but no bus service to use it on
Reason being the council had to withdraw the subsidies to pay for the bus pass county wide

I never understand why olds want to travel in rush hour unless they are going to work
If they are why do they need a free pass any more than other working people?

They could be going to a doctor's, hospital appointment to be tested for an STI.

Ordinarily I'd say its the bookings system, because why book oldies to go up to town at a time when it does not allow them to take advantage of free travel. Most appointments are for a session that runs over 2-4 hours, if not all day. Ron just happens to be trapped by a change of rules, so unless its wholly necessary then it could be rearranged. If it is necessary, then its probably worth the cost.

Hope all goes well Ron.