I think the argument may be that players dont necessarily live in London but in areas Essex, Herts, Kent or SurreyDohnut wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 1:01 pmAbsolutely sensible observation.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 9:31 am I think something needs to happen, eventually in the premier league too, but that wont happen!
This method also would penalise us because we are in London. We would have the same budget as say Grimsby, but rent and expenses in London are probably double. Why would a player want to come here for the same money as going somewhere where they would save 30-40% on bills?
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LittleMate wrote: ↑Wed May 20, 2020 9:26 pm From the BBC website
League One and League Two clubs would have to operate under squad salary caps, according to proposals put forward by the English Football League.
Third-tier sides would be given a £2.5m ceiling for salaries, while the sum would be £1.25m for the fourth tier.
The plan, as reported in the Telegraph newspaper, would also see clubs given automatic points deductions if players are not paid on time.
The EFL hopes to have the cap in place for the 2020-21 season.
Meanwhile, clubs would be given a vote on the introduction of maximum 20-man squads.
If approved, it would mean only 20 senior professionals at each club, with eight homegrown players - those produced from the club's academy system - within that group.
EFL chairman Rick Parry recently told MPs the game needed "a reset post-Covid", because of the prospect of a £200m hole in finances throughout the three affiliated leagues, including the Championship.
It is suggested clubs would have a season's grace in which to comply with the new measures, while clubs relegated from the Championship would also require a transition period given the disparity in player earnings and income between the second and third tiers.
Would or does every club have an academy or youth team?
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Yeah. Fair enough.StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 2:58 pmNo loophole with a strict limit on the number of players a team can have registered. The FA hold the registrations, so it's easy to police, and the penalties are already in the rules for playing an unregistered player. Limit League 2 teams to 20, League 1 to 25, Championship to 30 and EPL to 35 - to pick some arbitrary limits. Players in or out on loan count toward the total, players medically certificated out for greater than 2 or 3 months, say, can be credited back so you can get emergency cover.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 1:38 pm I don't really get how a hard cap like this is different to FFP they have today. Whatever system you use, unless you close loopholes (like sponsoring a brick) and put in clear enforcement guidelines, it's all a bit of a farce anyway.
Agree with the part about automatic points deductions for not paying wages though. I'd give clubs 1 life every 3 years because sometimes these things happen for various reasons but after that deduct 6 points every time they are late.
Effectively like the baseball model where the roster is set at 25 and theirs a 15 and 60 day injured list where you can replace players
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Yeah - they have injured reserve in the NHL where players don't count against the cap if a player is put on IR with the purpose of calling up an additional player. But I prefer the baseball model of a 15 or 60 day minimum disabled list (which can be implemented retrospectively) with the player unable to play for that full period of time even if they recover sooner (though think it was changed to a 10 day lower limit though). That should mean teams think twice about making a player inactive so they can register another.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 5:27 pmYeah. Fair enough.StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 2:58 pmNo loophole with a strict limit on the number of players a team can have registered. The FA hold the registrations, so it's easy to police, and the penalties are already in the rules for playing an unregistered player. Limit League 2 teams to 20, League 1 to 25, Championship to 30 and EPL to 35 - to pick some arbitrary limits. Players in or out on loan count toward the total, players medically certificated out for greater than 2 or 3 months, say, can be credited back so you can get emergency cover.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 1:38 pm I don't really get how a hard cap like this is different to FFP they have today. Whatever system you use, unless you close loopholes (like sponsoring a brick) and put in clear enforcement guidelines, it's all a bit of a farce anyway.
Agree with the part about automatic points deductions for not paying wages though. I'd give clubs 1 life every 3 years because sometimes these things happen for various reasons but after that deduct 6 points every time they are late.
Effectively like the baseball model where the roster is set at 25 and theirs a 15 and 60 day injured list where you can replace players
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Think it went to 10 and teams were taking the piss, using it to rest pitchers, so they put it back upSmendrick Feaselberg wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 8:48 pmYeah - they have injured reserve in the NHL where players don't count against the cap if a player is put on IR with the purpose of calling up an additional player. But I prefer the baseball model of a 15 or 60 day minimum disabled list (which can be implemented retrospectively) with the player unable to play for that full period of time even if they recover sooner (though think it was changed to a 10 day lower limit though). That should mean teams think twice about making a player inactive so they can register another.Apple Wumble wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 5:27 pmYeah. Fair enough.StillSpike wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 2:58 pm
No loophole with a strict limit on the number of players a team can have registered. The FA hold the registrations, so it's easy to police, and the penalties are already in the rules for playing an unregistered player. Limit League 2 teams to 20, League 1 to 25, Championship to 30 and EPL to 35 - to pick some arbitrary limits. Players in or out on loan count toward the total, players medically certificated out for greater than 2 or 3 months, say, can be credited back so you can get emergency cover.
Effectively like the baseball model where the roster is set at 25 and theirs a 15 and 60 day injured list where you can replace players

Thinking this through, do you think that if it was implemented in that way you could relax the transfer windows a bit as the only way to get players in would be long term injuries or by getting rid of a player and having to pay up their wages.
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We should just take the money out of the game and make it all amatuer again.
It's ruined beyond saving.Broken you might say.
It's a game where sporting endeavour is supposed to prevail. It doesn't money does.
It's ruined beyond saving.Broken you might say.
It's a game where sporting endeavour is supposed to prevail. It doesn't money does.
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So money reduces endeavour! Interesting theory.Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu May 21, 2020 9:57 pm We should just take the money out of the game and make it all amatuer again.
It's ruined beyond saving.Broken you might say.
It's a game where sporting endeavour is supposed to prevail. It doesn't money does.