Winchesterfan wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:55 pm
You are so bitter but presume you have facts, rather than fiction, about corporation tax loop holes. Also , hand on heart, have you never under declared income from all sources or paid cash to anyone for goods services etc without declaring such payments?
Fact is most tax income comes from the top 5% of those who pay tax. Why should they, or indeed anyone else, subsidise wealthy football clubs?
Bitter? Where’d that come from?
Anyway, back on topic.
My point, which you have totally missed is that I haven’t seen any public outpouring of outrage that McDonald’s are using tax payers money to subsidies their staff? Or Nissan? Or topshop? Or any of the other huge companies with wealthy owners.
Seems strange that football clubs fall into a different position.
So are you for wealthy companies, football related or otherwise, gaining from tax payers money or not? And whilst we are here, are you saying Joe Bloggs paying his cleanser cash in hand is the same as Starbucks dodging millions of pounds in tax? As it sounds like you are advocating companies not paying their way?
To answer your point no I do not advocate anyone avoiding tax from multi national companies to every individual. Of course most companies will employ accountants to ensure tax is paid and done legally. Most do exactly that but ones that don’t are assumed to be the majority rather than the minority.
Your self righteousness is impressive though I’d be interested to know if you have given back any of your income to others during this crisis.
Also why don’t you answer my question re paying people cash for work done to avoid tax? Is it because you do?
But why are you picking up on premiership footballers rather than any companies using the government money?
My ‘self-righteousness’ isn’t about who’s paying what, but about the double standards of certain Tory voters who are all of a sudden trying to impose socialist standards to footballers and no one else.
And not that it’s any of your business but I’m taxed a ludicrous amount on literally every bit of money I earn. Even the money that I pay every month to the trussell trust, and the one off donations I make to them on top, when I can.
Apple Wumble. I trust that, as a tax payer, you gift aid all your donations to the Trussel Trust. I knew nothing about the Trussel Trust but looked it up. Happy that I support a similar local charity in Winchester.
Delighted we both agree on giving and have just made a donation to your charity.
Winchesterfan wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:55 pm
You are so bitter but presume you have facts, rather than fiction, about corporation tax loop holes. Also , hand on heart, have you never under declared income from all sources or paid cash to anyone for goods services etc without declaring such payments?
Fact is most tax income comes from the top 5% of those who pay tax. Why should they, or indeed anyone else, subsidise wealthy football clubs?
Bitter? Where’d that come from?
Anyway, back on topic.
My point, which you have totally missed is that I haven’t seen any public outpouring of outrage that McDonald’s are using tax payers money to subsidies their staff? Or Nissan? Or topshop? Or any of the other huge companies with wealthy owners.
Seems strange that football clubs fall into a different position.
So are you for wealthy companies, football related or otherwise, gaining from tax payers money or not? And whilst we are here, are you saying Joe Bloggs paying his cleanser cash in hand is the same as Starbucks dodging millions of pounds in tax? As it sounds like you are advocating companies not paying their way?
To answer your point no I do not advocate anyone avoiding tax from multi national companies to every individual. Of course most companies will employ accountants to ensure tax is paid and done legally. Most do exactly that but ones that don’t are assumed to be the majority rather than the minority.
Your self righteousness is impressive though I’d be interested to know if you have given back any of your income to others during this crisis.
Also why don’t you answer my question re paying people cash for work done to avoid tax? Is it because you do?
Fair play to them but not sure why it's take best part of month to come to this. It still seems like a reactionary thing because people created rather than something they would've done off their own backs.
I understand part of the arguments about not wanting the clubs to have it. As they might use it for fees for transfers at a later date.
Would've thought they could've set up a fund for the people being furloughed at their clubs as part of this.
Looks like players will NOT be taking a pay cut though, based on Southampton's lead. The players are deferring part of their salary - so all they are doing is helping the club's cashflow. If players do not sign up to #playerstogether then at a time when up to 9 million people are furloughed they will still be getting a full weekly wage at some point.
Never have I been less in love with top flight football.
