Coronavirus

[tuffers#1]

I don't know how Ferugson counts as 'proper' and Vallance, Whitty etc don't. It seems like there's been a understanding of the 'herd immunity' quote. I'd be lying if I said I understood this particularly well so perhaps I'm butchering the logic, but herd immunity is ultimately what most countries will end up achieving anyways, assuming that 18 months of the current situation is considered unsustainable. The whole point of flattening the curve is to regulate healthcare demands whilst accepting infections will become widespread. Merkel has said as much, and Germany is implementing rigorous controls for now.

Your last point I agree with, but there's nothing to suggest that's the result of the approach recommended by Whitty et all. Getting the right in place is a decade old problem as well, not just the last few botched months.

Not to sound too 'Thory' but I wouldn't believe a word from China on this. They have the WHO in their pocket and are responsible for not dealing with this at origin, and failing to notify the world in time.

Is that Why Russian conspiracy theorists are flooding the internet there with
Stories it was an American Biological weapon used to undermine China & Russias
Wealth & to help stabilise Americas rising debt ?

Is what why?

Exactly

[Max B Gold]

Is that Why Russian conspiracy theorists are flooding the internet there with
Stories it was an American Biological weapon used to undermine China & Russias
Wealth & to help stabilise Americas rising debt ?

Is what why?

Exactly

Let's go to war.

[Disoriented]

I don't understand why we copied a disastrous country like Italy and not a successful one like South Korea who have had less than 200 deaths total.

Exactly.

[Long slender neck]

Minimal lockdown in Sweden, will be interesting to see if it works for them.

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

13 year old from South London died had no known underlying health conditions, yet there will be no post mortem.

Suffered cardiac arrest so that's probably why no post mortem. But they need to be investigating and verify whether the Coronavirus caused it, otherwise it's a bit misleading to put this down to Covid-19

[Long slender neck]

China has approved the use of bear bile to treat critically ill coronavirus patients.

The National Health Commission has recommended the use of Tan Re Qing - an injection that contains bear bile, goat horn and herbs - to treat patients with Covid-19.

But there is no evidence the mixture has any medicinal value.

Bear bile, which is produced in the liver and stored in the gall bladder, has been used in traditional Chinese medicine for hundreds of years and fetches a high price in the illegal international market.

The move to approve its use has angered animal rights activists and comes just weeks after the country banned the sale of wild animals for food.

[BoniO]

I think the Chinese government enjoys putting 2 fingers up to the rest of the World. They also allowed the Wuhan market to re-open a few days back, trading in live animals just as before.

[RedDwarf 1881]

How long will it be before we get another virus from the area

[tuffers#1]

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/world/co ... yYDfSv-fyY

Claims that uk test kits are infected with covid 19

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

569 more deaths

[Long slender neck]

At least its not a huge increase on yesterday.

[JimbO]

It's the cases you need to worry about as much if they keep going up by bigger and bigger numbers then we're all fecked.

[Long slender neck]

Cases slightly down on yesterday

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

Will be interesting to see how things go over the next week, especially as we're now approaching two weeks since the start of the lockdown. Hopefully we'll soon start to see the impact of that in the figures.

[NuneatonO's]

The response from Britons returning to the UK:
https://www.aol.co.uk/living/2020/04/02 ... after-lan/

It appears that even Cambodia is better organised and prepared than the UK!

This useless, shambolic, totally incompetent Tory Government. It truly beggars belief.

[VeganO]

Are we really surprised!
Their time in Government since 2010 has been a byword in incompetence, BREXIT, HS2, the economy etc
It is simply amazing that this shower were re-elected in Dec.

[Smendrick Feaselberg]

684 deaths since yesterday.

Anybody got the cumulative total in a line chart?

[Long slender neck]

Few good graphs here https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/uk/

[Thor]

Anthony Yardes dad is one of them, the boxer announced this news today and said his dad was fit and healthy and had no underlying health issues.

He has now lost his nan to the virus as well.

[Thor]

Vast morgue set up at the low farm depot, which is near houses.

[Long slender neck]

Got a cough

[BoniO]

Got a cough

Hopefully that's all it is.

[slacker]

We've now had more deaths in the UK than in China. I really don't understand how anyone can look at those numbers and think that our Govt is doing "a great job". We have less than 5% of their population and we had more than a month's headstart in preparing to tackle and mitigate the issue.

[Currywurst and Chips]

We've now had more deaths in the UK than in China. I really don't understand how anyone can look at those numbers and think that our Govt is doing "a great job". We have less than 5% of their population and we had more than a month's headstart in preparing to tackle and mitigate the issue.

You believe the Chinese government figures?

[Long slender neck]

China aren't trustworthy but there are other Asian countries with low figures like South Korea.