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Re: Labour Watch
Polls closing in leadership election today (remember that's still going), reckon Keir could win on the first ballot
Don't forget to vote if you haven't already comrades
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Re: Labour Watch
You should have had the email weeks ago?
Check your 'Spam' folder........before anyone says it, that doesn't mean that we are being Anti-semitic!
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Perhaps you have been suspended for your anti-Semitic rants and they've forgotten to tell you.
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Re: Labour Watch
Max B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:16 pmPerhaps you have been suspended for your anti-Semitic rants and they've forgotten to tell you.
And forgotten to stop taking my subs too, the bastards.
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Re: Labour Watch
Have you changed your email and not advised the Party HQ?
If you PM me your Membership number and CLP, I'll try and get it sorted for you.
I have access to the Membership Database and can double-check why you haven't received it.
If you PM me your Membership number and CLP, I'll try and get it sorted for you.
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Re: Labour Watch
WHOOOOOOOSSSSSSHHHHHHHHNuneatonO's wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:12 pm Have you changed your email and not advised the Party HQ?
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Re: Labour Watch
Thanks but nope.NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:12 pm Have you changed your email and not advised the Party HQ?
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Re: Labour Watch
You're a smart bloke. Why are you even bothering with the Labour Party?RedO wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:05 pmThanks but nope.NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:12 pm Have you changed your email and not advised the Party HQ?
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Re: Labour Watch
Always the 64 thousand dollar question whether to embrace Labourism, Maxy.
And the answer is always some variant on the Trolley Problem
Even I was tempted back in recent years. But I didn’t. Which I’ll be relieved about once Nerdy, Smarmy Starmer inexplicably gets the nod.
And the answer is always some variant on the Trolley Problem
Even I was tempted back in recent years. But I didn’t. Which I’ll be relieved about once Nerdy, Smarmy Starmer inexplicably gets the nod.
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Re: Labour Watch
Starmer is like the rebound guy a woman will go to when she's been cheated on/divorced.
Safe, comfortable, Nescafe Gold Blend guy
But ultimately doesn't excite and will eventually get dumped
Safe, comfortable, Nescafe Gold Blend guy
But ultimately doesn't excite and will eventually get dumped
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Re: Labour Watch
Because of JezzaMax B Gold wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:58 pmYou're a smart bloke. Why are you even bothering with the Labour Party?RedO wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 11:05 pmThanks but nope.NuneatonO's wrote: ↑Thu Apr 02, 2020 3:12 pm Have you changed your email and not advised the Party HQ?
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Re: Labour Watch
YouGov poll just published on Corbyn's last day. After 10 years of the Tories they're on over 50%
Con: 52%
Lab: 28%
Lib: 8%
Grn: 5%
Con: 52%
Lab: 28%
Lib: 8%
Grn: 5%
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Re: Labour Watch
To be fair, public support will naturally swing towards the government in times of crisis. I wouldn't take polls today as any indicator of where things will be in 18 months.
Not that any of it really matters.
Not that any of it really matters.
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Re: Labour Watch
I agree and they've seen their poll ratings go up 5-7% since the current crisis escalated. The crisis narrative doesn't explain why the Tories have been on circa 50% since January though.
Starmer unlikely to experience any honeymoon bounce either given the circumstances. At least the local elections aren't for 13 months
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Re: Labour Watch
Oh, without a doubt. Until Labour ditch all the ridiculous identity politics crap and connect with what really matters to people they'll never get back into power. As I've said before, a traditional labour voter from Rotherham will have f*** all in common with a Labour activist from Shoreditch. Things have a tendency to change when you least expect it, but right now I just cannot see Labour recovering.
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Re: Labour Watch
I had a debate with the current Chair of Oxford Uni Labour Club last night over a few drinks about the issue you raise above. It got quite fierce and I sense there may be some simmering ongoing disagreement.Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:02 pm Oh, without a doubt. Until Labour ditch all the ridiculous identity politics crap and connect with what really matters to people they'll never get back into power. As I've said before, a traditional labour voter from Rotherham will have f*** all in common with a Labour activist from Shoreditch. Things have a tendency to change when you least expect it, but right now I just cannot see Labour recovering.
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..and has a Labour voter from Rotherham, got much in common with an Eton educated toff in the Conservative Party?.........but it didnt stop them voting tory, did it?Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:02 pm Oh, without a doubt. Until Labour ditch all the ridiculous identity politics crap and connect with what really matters to people they'll never get back into power. As I've said before, a traditional labour voter from Rotherham will have f*** all in common with a Labour activist from Shoreditch. Things have a tendency to change when you least expect it, but right now I just cannot see Labour recovering.
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Well, see, that's the thing. While their interests may not be alligned, they can probably relate more to each other on grounds of social policy.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:15 pm..and has a Labour voter from Rotherham, got much in common with an Eton educated toff in the Conservative Party?.........but it didnt stop them voting tory, did it?Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:02 pm Oh, without a doubt. Until Labour ditch all the ridiculous identity politics crap and connect with what really matters to people they'll never get back into power. As I've said before, a traditional labour voter from Rotherham will have f*** all in common with a Labour activist from Shoreditch. Things have a tendency to change when you least expect it, but right now I just cannot see Labour recovering.
Labour lost its voters during the 2nd and 3rd New Labour GE victories. That vacuum was initially filled by UKIP and then the Brexit Party. And from there it was less of a leap to make the final switch to Tory.
Labour needs* to ditch the woke nonsense and put forward a shortlist of credible centre-left economic policies. Keep things streamlined, simple and clear.
(*Assuming it actually desires having real power, of course)
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Re: Labour Watch
Starmer aides briefing a resounding Keir win should hopefully lead to a purge of Corbyn's key allies and them taking control of the internal structures.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... our-leader
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... our-leader
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Help a simple soul out here, if possible.Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:40 pmWell, see, that's the thing. While their interests may not be alligned, they can probably relate more to each other on grounds of social policy.ComeOnYouOs wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 3:15 pm..and has a Labour voter from Rotherham, got much in common with an Eton educated toff in the Conservative Party?.........but it didnt stop them voting tory, did it?Dunners wrote: ↑Fri Apr 03, 2020 1:02 pm Oh, without a doubt. Until Labour ditch all the ridiculous identity politics crap and connect with what really matters to people they'll never get back into power. As I've said before, a traditional labour voter from Rotherham will have f*** all in common with a Labour activist from Shoreditch. Things have a tendency to change when you least expect it, but right now I just cannot see Labour recovering.
Labour lost its voters during the 2nd and 3rd New Labour GE victories. That vacuum was initially filled by UKIP and then the Brexit Party. And from there it was less of a leap to make the final switch to Tory.
Labour needs* to ditch the woke nonsense and put forward a shortlist of credible centre-left economic policies. Keep things streamlined, simple and clear.
(*Assuming it actually desires having real power, of course)
I've heard the term Identity Politics uses in a pejorative way, but I don't think I'm any closer knowing what it means (despite looking up the meaning in a dictionary).
What do you mean by the Identity politics crap, and what would ditching the woke nonsense look like ? What actual policies and positions do they have that you think they should change / drop.
I hate it when people put "genuine question" on a post, because it's usually not - but in this case, it really is - I'm completely in the dark about "identity politics"