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You know what I mean. Iraq, saudi. Bless you believe that second part Genuinely not getting what is disputable in that. It is an armed conflict. It is taking place within a high-density populated area. And, in such situations, there is always going to be civilian collateral. Putting aside whether s...

And, as has been pointed out above, it's not indiscriminate. It's an intense urban armed conflict within high-density populated areas. Civilian causalities are unavoidable in such a scenario. You should present your evidence to the UN and the Yanks and tell them to wind their necks in then. ^Here's...

Be interesting to see some of the reactions on here if a country like Iran was indiscriminately killing people instead of Israel In an indirect way, Iran is. And, as has been pointed out above, it's not indiscriminate. It's an intense urban armed conflict within high-density populated areas. Civili...

Be interesting to see some of the reactions on here if a country like Iran was indiscriminately killing people instead of Israel In an indirect way, Iran is. And, as has been pointed out above, it's not indiscriminate. It's an intense urban armed conflict within high-density populated areas. Civili...

Dunners wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 2:41 pm We've not found a solution so far. I reckon that if we all put in the effort, we should get there in another 25 pages or so.

This was from page 13. Okay, we may be 58 pages over my prediction (give or take), but I reckon we’re almost there this time.

Yeah, but there's absolutely no risk.

I saw something by that Owen Jones where he guaranteed it.

It's in the bag. Isn’t that what Napoleon said just before the battle of Waterloo ? Yeah, but this time it's different, because there's just no way Labour can f*ck this up and the Tories somehow sneak a surprise win. In fact, I reckon I may just liquidate my crypto holdings and lump it all on the n...

It's in the bag.

Susan Backlinie has died aged 77. She was the skinny dipper who got eaten at the start of Jaws. What a great film, Spielberg’s first foray into movies? It is like a Western transported to the ocean. Good on Capitalism vs Humanity. RIP Susan. He directed two films before that; the brilliant Duel and...

Susan Backlinie has died aged 77. She was the skinny dipper who got eaten at the start of Jaws.

Hoover Attack wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2024 4:44 pm I don’t follow many far right influencers, do you know which ones did this?

It's probably just our Beradogs up to his old tricks.

BTW, personally, I think this year's controversy has added an extra layer of spice to the competition. I'd therfore like to see some of the other competitors do some war before next year's final.

Yeah, that's fair. But then you could also argue that the absence of jury votes for the Israeli song was suss too. It definitely wasn't the best song, but it was in the top 6.

As I said, autocracy vs democracy.

"Fae" is taking it well, I see.

The judges vs public vote is an allegory of autocracy vs democracy.

The ludicrous online reactions to Eurovision are a delight every year.

Dunners wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:14 pm The UK entry is just electro-meh.

Zero points from the public. It wasn't terrible, but it had nothing great about it either.

LOL at the contrast between jury and public votes.

UK judges award 12 points to Portugal. WtF?

I think there were more than three songs sh*ter than the UKs.

I was going to vote for Israel. But it costs 15p a time. F*ck that.

Long slender neck wrote: ↑Sat May 11, 2024 9:29 pm Is music allowed in Palestine?

Not sure, but invitations to musical festivals have sure dried up.

Okay. Initial summary.

Only a few dud acts, so decent value overall.

Winner has to be between Spain, Croatia and Ireland, IMO. But several others are credible contenders. Including (*muffles laughter) Israel. But music is the real winner her.

Austrian singer gets bonus points for starting with her coat tribute to East 17.

French singer displaying some technical vocal brilliance there. But the song just isn't strong enough to win it.